I do agree Ahmad, The Press in Jordan is a really shitty here, they just bitch about the freedom, and they simply dont do anything !!!!
and its sad they missed the prom Ohhhh

ya he would , he was too drunk to ge a story,
and what a story we need
speed is 160kmh
teen with a car
and their stupid father who lethim
with drinking
no, i dont think that anyone can see that coming
screw such parents who made that happen

and how do you know all the information?!?
for your AMAZING information, the father is my cousin and his son doesnt drink. Now what? have SOME respect!! imagine it was your brother or sister in that car, how would you feel if a stranger kept saying nonsense about them. you have NO PROOOF!

supreme ki
a stupid kid from the same schoolwants to meet me la ydogni..
and knowing his way it will be yoom el 5amees, nadi el sayyarat, and after non ofc, cause they have school ofc

respect :
you have a point, yet am still mad from what happen.
yet what am mad isnot the dead, its the parents who let that happen, and watch it while it happen !!!!

am gonna correct the tone, keep tuning

yea severues, while some of ur points are valid, still it is still not acceptable socially i guess,( i know u don’t care about that , but i have to say it) to trash dead people.

the points i agree with you is to LEARN from the incident and not take it as a 1 time incident, this happens frequently so everyone please be careful and take the right steps.

I hope the parents learn from that as well and everyone. and friends to stop acting stupid “cool”. there is a lesson for everybody.

still i am not with the trash talk on the dead. but from logical point of view, i see ur point, from socially and practical point of view, u need to adjust ur presentation for ur opinions.

i wish we can have all the facts, even if they are dirty, i think it has to be said.

p.s: don’t worry about the teens, they r getting what they deserve now ( good or bad)

yuri i do agree
and if its up to me , i would take their stinky corpses and shot it twice and display it in a glass box, while i jail their fathers
Lucky , am not the one in charge

Donno! I am sick and tired of people in Jordan! nothing can be done to change them!

There are daily reports about guys who do this thing in different places in jordan such as t5mees and they usually do it in the same place! where are the police to catch them?! ordinary people like us report or die and unfortunatly police are doing nothing about it!

I think that this t5mees issue and overspeeding should be taken very seriously.

What can we do as people?! am still thinking! but a huge part of this issue is social one! when fathers stop rewarding their stupid soons with cars just for passing tawjihi with 60.1 avg this will stop!

I do not regret guys who die foolishly, but i regret the death of innocent people who were just walking or even inside their homes! it happened once that a car jumped over the hedge of a house and almost killed a woman working there!

too shamful! about lighting a candle, I do agree with u, but when winds are too strong ur candle will always go off before even lightening anything! So we should use force first! not that insulting dead is what I mean! no not all!

BAC
0.16 – 0.19

i really do not get, they are dead…the parents learned a lesson…let it go…they are dead man, it is awful enough.

Severus, why are you being rude again???
Didnt we agree that you shouldn’t speak in an inhumane manner?
You know whats sad about you, is that you have such a great argument and you have such a good point but you loooooooooose it all when you swear at dead people and use more bad language for their parents that are hurting.
Like I said its not what you are saying that bothers,, its HOW you say it. You would be gaining everyones positive attitude if you just learnt how to communicate your feelings without bad use of language. YOU LOSE IT all like that, because you are very disrespectful.
Change your attitude and not your opinion and watch how people will respond.
respect!!

Ok thats great that you can share and you have even more personal back-up to justify your opinion, but say it nicely. Like you said, you were hurt, there are a lot of people that are also hurt that are not the father or mother of these children. If you dont want to respect their parents, respect the innocent people who loved the ones that died.
Now tell us how you can change this attitude of children driving, drunk driving and speedy people for no reason driving instead of swear.
yalaa, make a clean kickass point!!
no point in shooting dead people!

malek, u came late, AMAZINGLY respect and severues were able to hold themselves and not continue unneccessary flaming, they even agreed.

you were late Malek]

and by the way, i am really impressed how Severus admitted that he was aggressive, and i am impressed from respect that he didn’t flame back, and rather controlled himself which is very hard to do online, we have seen it before were stupid issue are blown out of proportion.

BTW! these guys are Regarded as heros now! yea heros!

On the radio channel called “play” 99.6! listen to it to understand what I mean!

am being constructive, u are being slack!

slack?!
do you even know what that means?
you are telling me I am being lazy??
do you even know what being constructive means?!?

this is hilarious

Admin: I didn’t delete this comment because I thought it is hilarious, so i decided to leave it, only edit the words
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Okay.
first of all none of u b***hes know what ur talking about. this may be hard for your TINY brains to understand but people make f***ing mistakes.
WHO THE F*** DO U THINK YOU ARE?
You guys do not have the right to judge, let alone talk about these people.
THEY were amazing and had more courage, heart, and soul than any of u f***ers. <—– Admin: that is my best part.
THE only reason u guys are sitting wasting ur time talking about this is because u have nothing else to do in you life!!
Dont talk about things that u dont understand, and people that you dont know!

dude this is f***** hilarious! ok, now I see the good part about schools such as the english school and american school, they produce clowns that help change the picture about Jordanian people that they do not laugh! holy! x)

Baba 7bibi, 5leek b7alak blash nejek 3la nadee elsaeart ya faee3, ma r7 ndrobak bs r7 no5dak m3na r7la 7lwa 3la shar3 elthakafa! n3rfak 3la 3ali wo elshbab!

you think this is funny? really u do.
im not going to threaten you because your disgusting and not worth my time. but while u are laughing in our faces we are spitting in yours.
watch ur words because even though NOW ur are the one hurting people with your words the tables will turn and u will be hurt…and it wont be by words. Stop judging others and get whats back of ur pitiful life.

Okay.
first of all none of u b***hes know what ur talking about. this may be hard for your TINY brains to understand but people make f***ing mistakes.
WHO THE F*** DO U THINK YOU ARE?
You guys do not have the right to judge, let alone talk about these people.
THEY were amazing and had more courage, heart, and soul than any of u f***ers.
THE only reason u guys are sitting wasting ur time talking about this is because u have nothing else to do in you life!!
Dont talk about things that u dont understand, and people that you dont know!

Alyssa screw you .. screw them
you belong to the same MFs type am talking about
if you dont like it … will you can suck it ..
This is my site and i say what i want in it, if you dont like it again … feel free to suck it .. big time !!!

Alyssa Nadine,

Let me tell u something! The guys are dead, and am really sorry for them now! each time we forget about it, someone of you pop up and restart it all over again!

We are not mad about these guys in particular, but we are mad at the corruption in this case, four 16 years old teens driving with huge speed and in the Aqaba road, why would such a thing happen?

Now I know you might not understand me, but listen, these guys are dead, Allah yr7amhom, no need to cause more insults for them. When you insult us, we will insult you and the dead guys too, it is a natural result.

Now let discuss you comments: “im not going to threaten you because your disgusting and not worth my time.”

I see that you spent at least 30 minutes writing the 2 comments, seeing the difference in time between the first and the second. Second, threatening? Are you sure? What can you do? Send a hired assassin to kill us? Am sorry we are not living in Brazil, and besides what kind of person do you think you are when you threaten others??! Threatening is a very primitive act. And this post was posted just because some one started send threatening letters, that am still waiting for it to occur.

Second do you know us? Why do u state that we are tiny brained guys?! Am afraid to tell you that the least smart amongst us is 10 times smarter than an average Jordanian. I can not tell you why, but it is the truth.

“THE only reason u guys are sitting wasting ur time talking about this is because u have nothing else to do in you life!!”

Believe me, each and everyone of us does not have enough time to scratch his head. Can you tell me please how you find this thread?

“Dont talk about things that u dont understand…”

what is it that we do not understand in this case? Please tell me.

“At least they lived there lives with friends and family who loved them and they didnt sit on there ass looking at there computer screen talking shit about people you dont even know.”

Again you are contradicting yourself, how come that you tell us not to talk about people we do not know, while you are making pretty big assumption about us? Do you know us?

“i spit in all ur disrespectfull faces.. you think u are men because u dont drink? because u dont drive fast?”

Spiting is a primitive act again, you are not giving us a good picture about you. And if drinking and driving fast makes us men, then non of us want to be a man.

If you are of the type I think you are then please remember how many times you trashed people because they are not cool and do not dress them selves with the latest fashion. What we did is wrong, but it was because of people just like you, who would show up and start showing us how civilized they are.

Admin: i allowed this just to amuse saad !!
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First i would like to say that people make mistakes and DIE! but people who are at this age thank god will go straight to heaven unlike you poeple who are talking shit about the dead! alla la ye7amkom!! i hope you go through what these parents went through! so u can feel what theyre feeling about psycho paths 7akoodeen 3am bishtamu 3ala shabab ma btuswu kundarithom ya ikhwan il sharmoota. yil3an abu haik nas illi ma bir7amu il mayet!! Ir7amuhom mishan tinri7mu !! sitna mariam tsamat mishanha il wa7eeedeh illi kanat ray2a bi umor il buloogh wo intu jayeen t7asbu il ahel wo il nas?! intu yalli 7akooden illi ahilkom 7abseenkom bi byootkom intu wo khawatkom sharameet wo m3ajbeeen way more than these kids are!! Grow up! become human! they are 4 DEAD KIDS! pray for them!! pray for their parents ya BAJAM! ya JUHALA! IGNORANCE! your talking about your parents?! how good they are?! WALKOM AHILKOM IL JUHHAL ZAY khil2itkom illi m3almeenkon tishtamu 3al mayteen ya ikhwaaat il sharameet ya 7akoodeee! walkom nas zaykom bidhom 7areg!! surmayto la wa7ad min il twafu intu ma btiswuha wa7ad wara il tani tin7ir2u inshala wo nshoof meen MABIDO YISHTAM FEEKOM! ya WLAD IL SHARAMEET! YA NAWAR!

Thanks severues, this did amuse me.

hehehehhehe, aaaah funny.

but i have to be honest, it is really hard to read arabic english, it hurts my eye.

but still, really funny. hehehehehhe.

thats sad . Severus enable that comment u sent on the email, the guy actually says something useful for a change . and for the angry teens flooding us with curses and such.. as Yuri said ” u curse us we curse them and you right back” cursing on the interntet is easy guys.
and please STOP with the ” no life” insult , cant u see the irony there? laughter kills me everytime i read it!

Ok, first, i have to apologize for the three comments that were reported as spam by mistake, it wasn’t by me, and i doubt the other admin did that. i think it was the auto spam blocker, he did that for several.

i agree in most of what the Outsider and Tim Jones said. Both had wonderful points, i do disagree on the following parts though.

“Yes they did stupid things, who doesnt. They drank, these days everybody does, so do not single them out as the only underage kids on the planet.”
This was from outsider.

Don’t you think it is sad that “these days everybody does” and this has to be changed?

“What fucking difference does it make? What are you gonna do about it, change the world? ”
This was from Tim Jones

The whole idea I am trying to say, and it think some of the other commentators trying as well, that this is the sad part, THIS IS NOT A SINGLE ACCIDENT. That’s what i and most of the commentators are trying to stop, and i think (even if it doesn’t look like that) severues trying to say.

We don’t want this incident to occur again. Instead of acting like they were heroes and cry for them, we need to see where is the root of this problem is and solve it. whether it is in the educational system, parents, traffic laws, wherever. Denying there is a problem is a problem in itself, and acting like they were heroes and this is a sad single incident is just another way to overlook the real problem.

I do agree with Tim Jones about how people are critical to the extreme, but i don’t think that IS the problem in our society, it is a problem, but definitely not the most urgent one. As long as those stupidly critical people are not in the decision making process, they are UNimportant.

If you want to honor their death, then prevent others from following their path, not picture them as heroes. and answering your question Tim Jones. YES, I DO WANT TO CHANGE AT LEAST MY WORLD.

On differnt note:
I am with Xzeer about the curses thing, i never understood why they curse over the internet, do you think they actually think they can shut someone up by cursing him over the internet??

Do you think it is possible the following scenario happens
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After they do the insult comment, they go to their friends and say “Yesterday, i showed those idiots how not to talk like they know stuff while they are pieces of shit. I made them shut up”
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Do you think that could happen? if yes, then it is sad that some people actually think that.

p.s: i re-apologize for the mistaken spam.

I agree with parts and disagree with others. while i DO believe even after controlling everything these stuff will still happen every now and then, but i don’t think this is the case here. i think it happens frequently enough to deduce this is not a single incident and we need to find the root of the problem.

as catching bees with honey rather vinegar, that’s correct, i don’t approve the tone of this post, but i tried to look beyond the insults and tried to see what he is trying to say. I agree that teenagers will just disregard the whole thing because of the insults, but i am not the author, i can’t claim responsibility.

but even if the teenagers didn’t listen to this post, i still don’t want someone pressuring his friend to drive fast by mentioning that “even if he died, he would be idolized” ( i know this probably won’t happen, but we shouldn’t be even near of that happening). in fact i want it to be used in the other way, i want a friend telling his driving friend to “SLOW DOWN so idiots like the ones here won’t make fun of you” if an accident happens.

i know this is a far consequence, but it is not that impossible. and as other teenagers may disregard this post, i still prefer to reach already stable persons who may see the message beside the insults and maybe affect their way of raising their children to the better a little bit, this post is not entirely towards teenagers.

but after all, i still do agree that the tone of this post must definitely be less aggressive. but it is his writers opinion, i won’t block it nor change because i disagree, that’s why i try to approve all comments, with or against.

you can see that respect (the person) did disagree with the writer from the beginning and his tone was good enough that made the writer admits couple of things, u can go back and see for yourself. i think most of the commentators did agree on the fact that this post is a little emotional.

here is a quote from the author in one of the comments

Severus Said,
December 16th, 2008 @8:30 am edit

respect:
do agree,
Thank you
the thing is i had a very 2 bad personal experiences, with children with speedy cars, that they got from their fathers,
each time i hear someone telling me its the trust between the father and a son, that gave the son the opportunity to waste lifes , i get that back .. and it does hurt !!

U ASS HOLE THESE PEOPLE WERE THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, NO MATTER HOW THEY DIED THEY STILL DESERVE RESPECT JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AND DELETE THIS THREAD!

Please , i’d like for the post to remain as it is, ill be writing a follow up, explaining my reasons soon , would you wait till you read it, Please !

can we at least lock it?

i think almost everything need to be said is said, more comments will repeat what already been said

It is true by making the accident public, many were scared straight which is a good thing.

And I can see how people who actually knew those kids really miss them and kindly remember them. But still, you didn’t give me a reason for considering them heroes for people who don’t know them.

We see them as heroes for who they were, who they are in spirit, and who they will always be.

Well, to the general crowd, we got no idea how they were, then why the general people should consider them heroes? i think you should define “we” in your statement. if you personally knew them and they were really good in your point of view, then i see how you can consider them heroes. but for anyone else who didn’t know them can’t consider them anything. the only thing we know about these people that they were underaged drunk speed drivers. i know this is not the full or the real picture, but that what is presented to the public, and based on that picture, we definitely can’t consider them heroes.

The we in my last statement is anyone who doesn’t know their everyday life.